01-02-2024 Meeting Minutes BOCJanuary 2, 2024
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PERSON COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS January 2, 2024
MEMBERS PRESENT OTHERS PRESENT
Gordon Powell Katherine M. Cathey, County Manager
C. Derrick Sims Michele Solomon, Clerk to the Board
Kyle W. Puryear Lydia Lavelle, County Attorney
Charlie Palmer
Jason Thomas
The Board of Commissioners for the County of Person, North Carolina, met in
regular session on Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 7:00 p.m. in the County Office Building
Auditorium located at 304 S. Morgan Street, Roxboro, NC.
Chairman Powell called the meeting to order. Commissioner Thomas offered an
invocation and Commissioner Palmer led the group in the Pledge of Allegiance.
DISCUSSION/ADJUSTMENT/APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
A motion was made by Commissioner Sims and carried 5-0 to approve the agenda.
PUBLIC HEARING:
PUBLIC HEARING ON WHETHER THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
SHOULD ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO CHANGE THE ORGANIZATION
AND GOVERNANANCE OF SOME OF THE COUNTY’S HUMAN
SERVICES FUNCTIONS
Presented by County Manager Katherine Cathey. She stated that we are going to
have a public hearing tonight. She advised that the public hearing was noticed in the
Courier-Times with more than 30 days advance notice prior to tonight’s meeting. She
stated that the Board has discussed this on a couple of different occasions in 2023. She
stated, what is currently being considered, is making changes to human services functions
within Person County Government. She stated the human services functions are Social
Services (DSS), Health, Veteran’s Services, and PATS. She stated that at the last meeting,
the Board indicated an interest in forming a Consolidated Human Services Agency with
Social Services and PATS. She stated that the Board has continued to give consideration
to Veteran Services as an option for the Consolidated Human Services Department. She
stated that this option was previously proposed by staff, and she has had individual
conversations with the Board members recently that indicate that this option is still
something to be considered. She stated that at this time, the human services functions that
the Board has considered for consolidation are Social Services, Veteran Services, and
potentially PATS. She stated that the Board has indicated that they would not like to
consider the Health Department within a consolidated agency.
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Cathey stated that there are various options, and the Board has indicated an interest
in assuming the duties and responsibilities of the Governing Board. She stated the options
as either assuming the duties of the DSS Board, solely over Social Services, or creating a
Consolidated Human Services Agency and becoming the Governing Board for that
agency. She stated that there are some slight differences with either of those options. She
stated, as presented, if the Board of Commissioners assumes governance of the Social
Services Department, the employees remain under the State Human Resources Act
(SHRA) and the Social Services Director would report directly to the Board of
Commissioners, serving as the Board of Social Services. She stated that if the Board
moves forward with doing a Consolidated Human Services Agency, the Board may decide
to bring the employees out from under the SHRA, and then all employees of the
Consolidated Agency would be subject to County Human Resources Policy. She stated
that the Director of the Consolidated Agency would report to the County Manager. She
advised the Board that they could decide after the public hearing not to make any changes,
or they could evaluate other options. She advised the Board that following the public
hearing, they would be discussing the desire of the Board, after receiving
public comments. She stated that the next step in the process would be for the Board to
approve a Resolution at a later meeting that would outline any changes that the Board
would like to make, if they desire to do so, establish an effective date for those changes,
and outline the details of what that would look like moving forward. She stated that there
would be time between this meeting and the next meeting to prepare a Resolution for
adoption based on the direction of the Board tonight, if they decide to make any changes.
A motion was made by Commissioner Palmer and carried 5-0 to open the duly
advertised public hearing for Whether the Board of Commissioners Should Adopt a
Resolution to Change the Organization and Governance of Some of the County’s Human
Services Functions.
The following individuals spoke in favor of whether the Board of Commissioners should
adopt a Resolution to Change the Organization and Governance of Some of the County’s
Human Services Functions:
Sabrina Verrier of 4196 Oxford Road, Roxboro stated that she is here tonight
representing Person’s Promise for Children Coalition, herself as a foster parent, and a
member of the community. She stated that several people were not here tonight because
they were afraid of retaliation and afraid something would happen if they did speak out.
She stated that wanted to lead the Board and all in attendance in an exercise tonight. She
requested that all close their eyes and imagine your child or a child that you love on their
first Christmas morning where they are so excited for Santa. See their smiles, see them
jumping up and down, and the hugs and laughter. She stated think about the first time they
called you Mom, Dad, Aunt, or Uncle. Now their first steps, their first foods, their first
day of school or daycare.
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Verrier stated, now remember your nighttime routine, the baths, the giggles,
brushing their hair and teeth, getting them cozy and ready for bed. She stated now imagine
you have less than a weeks’ notice that this child is going to go home, and you take them
to a cold office building where you are not allowed inside. Then a social worker comes
outside, takes all of the things you so diligently packed, and rips their tiny screaming
bodies from your arms. Then they just walk away. She stated now imagine going home,
getting into bed and thinking about your child. Are they safe? Are they warm? Are they
scared? Did someone read them a bedtime story? She stated now open your eyes, this
story is not made up. She stated that this scenario is her life; it is the DeYoung Family’s
life, as well as several other families’ lives that are dealing with this here in the County.
She stated that she is in favor of consolidation and that this would be the first step on a
road to regaining the trust of the foster parents and our community. She provided a book
for each of the Commissioners from the Person’s Promise for Children Coalition.
Patricia Lunsford of 1154 Allensville Road, Roxboro stated that she and her
grandson are victims of DSS. She stated that in 2020, her grandson was taken from her
after being abused by the authority that DSS has. She stated that DSS manipulated and
lied. She stated that DSS has continued to abuse their authority, not only to take him, but
to keep him, and he still has not returned home. She stated that DSS workers have
threatened her on several occasions stating she is harassing them when she only wanted to
understand what was going on. She stated that she thinks DSS needs a deep cleaning
because no child should be taken, if they are not in harm’s way. She stated she just wants
to understand how DSS and the DSS lawyer have lied and kept her out of court
proceedings. She stated she just wants help to understand and to get her grandson back.
Patricia Long of 1149 Shelton Road, Roxboro stated that she is here on behalf of
the DeYoung Family. She stated that the results of the State investigation are very
concerning and have raised questions. She stated that everyone involved in the case was
not contacted and interviewed. She stated that Penny DeYoung was contacted by the State
concerning the results of the investigation, and the letter stated that there is always
opportunity to improve. She stated she wants something to be done.
Roxie Wade of 602 Chub Lake Street, Roxboro stated that she is here on behalf of
herself and Penny DeYoung. She stated that she has temporary custody of her 2-year old
grandbaby. She stated that DSS did not explain to her how the process works and it was
very hectic. She stated that she is still stuck with her grandbaby after DSS returned the
baby back to her mom. She stated that she could not trust DSS. She stated that DSS
advised her the next time a report is made, her grandbaby would go straight to foster care.
She stated that she is keeping her grandbaby safe without DSS and will be fighting for
custody in February without the help of the County. She stated that something needs to be
done because it is not fair that kids are getting hurt and dying.
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Taylor Davis of 621 Rachel Lane Apt 7, Roxboro stated that she is here on behalf
of herself and Penny DeYoung. She stated that Person County DSS has victimized her.
She stated that false accusations were reported and she understands that they have to be
investigated. She stated that once the caseworker came out and saw that her child is not in
harm’s way, they should have been left alone. She stated that it hurts the children. She
stated that her child has been raised right since she was born. She stated that there is no
communication at DSS, and that she did not know who her caseworker was half of the
time. She stated that there were different people knocking on her door. She stated these
people asked her daughter personal questions, and it did not need to be done. She stated
that the investigation should have ended at the start, when the accusation was made, and
they saw her child was not in harm’s way. She stated they continued to pester her and
something needs to be investigated.
Ron Jeffreys of 70 Westwood Lane, Roxboro stated that he is president of the
Person Veteran’s Council. He stated that he is here on behalf of the Veteran’s Council. He
stated that they are in support of combining DSS and the VSO. He stated that Person
County’s population is around 39,000, and of the 39,000, almost 3,000 are veterans. He
stated that it is time to get a full-time VSO. He stated that the veterans would greatly
appreciate that. He stated that currently the VSO works 19 hours weekly, and has a
backlog. He stated that if the Board does consider this merger, they are requesting that the
VSO be hired as full-time employee, adjust her salary, and provide a better workspace. He
stated that the veterans would like the VSO to have a more secure location for her office,
where veterans can feel more secure, instead of sitting out in the middle of an open area.
He stated that when they start talking budgets for next year, the VSO really needs an
administrative assistant to help with the veterans.
David Bell of 319 Reams Avenue, Roxboro stated that he is a member of Post 138.
He stated that he is the District Commander for this area for the American Legion. He
stated that Vance and Warren Counties are a part of his district, and they do not have quite
as many veterans as Person County, yet they have full-time staff. He stated that he is in
support of making Miss Vikki full time, and that is where she belongs.
Tracy Ellixson of 475 New Mayo Drive, Roxboro stated that he is a veteran of
Person County. He stated that he had a health issue earlier this year that was deemed
military related. He stated that he did not know how to get all the services that he needed.
He stated that having the VSO, as full-time, and having an assistant would greatly benefit
all the veterans, as there are people like him that are unaware that these things exist. He
stated he thinks we need to invest more in not just the VSO and the support she brings, but
also in getting the word out there to our veterans. He stated that he believes the
Commissioners need to have oversight over DSS. He stated that he has dealt with DSS
personally with Child Support and his daughter.
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Philip Schissler of 1001 Union Grove Church Road, Roxboro stated that he is here
for the DAV Chapter 72, and that Ronald was not able to be at the meeting. He stated that
the DAV is all about getting the veterans benefits and medical services, but it is quite
challenging to figure it out. He stated that having a VSO that could help, such as Miss
Vikki, is wonderful. He stated that she is backed up, and the DAV is in support of having
a full time position to help DAV Chapter 72 go through all the challenges of getting
medical and VA benefits.
Joseph Raines of 680 Haywood Bailey Road, Roxboro stated that there are many
scars that veterans carry, not only on the inside, but also on the outside. He stated, what all
Vikki does for them, she is a superstar. He stated if you put those two areas together, you
not only have veterans now but you are going to have veterans coming out of high school
in four to six years, and they are going to need help. He stated that the VA system is a
circus, and people think it is so easy to just go there and get help. He stated that it is brutal
without Vikki’s help. He stated that Vikki has helped him out when others, such as
Congressmen and Senators, would not. He stated that he was in the Army from age 17 to
age 27. He stated that he has been shot, stabbed, and seen things that would make you cry
at night, and Vikki has been there for him. He stated putting these two forces together
benefits veterans even more.
Raymond Myers of 71 Shore Creek Drive, Roxboro stated that he is a veteran of
Person County, and the veterans continue to serve our County and Country every day. He
stated the veterans are looking for some help to be able to help them. He stated the VA is
not an easy thing to navigate. He stated that Vikki gives them all the information and care
they need to be able to make things easier.
Alan Whitlow of 155 Rosewood Drive, Roxboro stated that a secure area for the
VSO would be a big benefit. He stated that the senior center is great; however, many
veterans would not go there because they are not somewhere segregated from the general
population. He stated that he wanted to praise Ms. Harris, as she has been great to the
veterans. He stated that she has helped him and most veterans speaking tonight. He stated
that she is backed up, and it would benefit the veterans of this County if she was full time
and had an administrative assistance to help her navigate some of the paperwork.
Richard Nowell of 39 Hillcrest Avenue, Roxboro stated that he is a Commander of
American Legion Post 138 here in Roxboro. He stated that Miss Vikki really needs
support from the Commissioners to get her to be full-time. He stated that he is a veteran
and a lot of the Vietnam era veterans faced horrible situations, were sent home to fend for
themselves, and to figure out what to do next. He stated the VSO helps with all of that.
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Teresa Burch of 1270 Whitt Town Road, Roxboro stated that she is the treasurer of
the Person Veterans Council, and the daughter of a Vietnam veteran, who is 100%
disabled. She stated that she is here in support of a full-time Veteran Service Officer
(VSO) for Person County. She stated that in her research, the counties of Alleghany,
Anson, Ashe, Dare, Davie, Halifax, Hertford, Jackson, Martin, Vance, and Warren have a
lot in common with Person County. She stated they all have similar populations and
veterans. She stated the difference between those counties and Person County is that we
do not have a full-time VSO. She stated many times the needs of our local veterans are not
met in a timely manner because Vikki, our VSO, is currently part-time, and simply cannot
provide the services our veterans need and deserve in the two and a half days she is
scheduled to be in the office. She stated that her organization has heard from many
frustrated veterans that have a hard time getting to see the VSO in the time that she is
working because she is busy servicing their fellow veterans. She stated they have to wait
for the VSO to become available; however, they are grateful for her as she goes above and
beyond to provide the help that they all need. She stated sometimes there are issues that
veterans have that are time sensitive and delays could be detrimental to the veteran
needing services. She stated that the Person County Veterans Council is in full support of
combining the VSO with DSS, if the merger would allow our VSO to move to full-time
status to better serve our veteran community.
Vikki Harris of 87 Semora Road, Roxboro stated that she is the Veteran Service
Officer. She stated that the veterans are her heart. She stated not only are they veterans,
they are also parents and grandparents. She stated that if you consolidate DSS with the
Veteran Service Office, those veterans that have children or are adopting children, or
whatever the case may be, it would make it easier for the VSO to connect the veteran to
see what other needs they may have. She stated that every dime, every dollar that comes
into Person County by a veteran, comes back to the community as they spend their money
here. She stated that is one thing you cannot take away, what they have given so heartfelt
to protect, the freedoms of this country.
Liz Bradsher of 976 Estate Road, Roxboro provided thanks to the veterans for their
service and stated that her son-in-law is in Iraq. She stated that this issue is about DSS,
and the children who are victims of adult behavior, and are the most innocent. She stated
that there are several things she wanted to bring forth today, and most of it will be in your
books. She stated that she would not bring forth any names, and that this is their research.
She stated that she knows that there is going to be a group that will say this is not true. She
stated that this is true to her, because it is her research, our research (Person’s Promise for
Children Coalition). She stated that friends of friends are hired at DSS, cousins are hired,
and leadership is not provided. She stated that they know one department, Adult Medicaid,
has had almost a complete turnover since 2018. She stated that employees feel fearful of
their work environment and there is retaliation. She stated, in fact, she received 15
messages on her way here from people who are not going to be here tonight because they
are afraid of retaliation.
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Bradsher stated a DSS Program Administrator was hired with the suspicion of
fraud. She stated that her behavior is unprofessional and without consequence. She stated
that this has resulted in the resignation of others in a very unstable working environment.
She stated that she is known as one of DSS’s untouchables. She stated that when former
Commissioner PJ Gentry was on the DSS Board, Mr. Paylor, another employee, and Mr.
Jeffers, told employees not to speak to Ms. Gentry if she were to come by to visit. She
stated that they told employees that anything said to Ms. Gentry would need to be
approved by them. She stated that this is employee intimidation. She stated that Tom
Fitzgerald has been a long friend of her husband. She stated that Mr. Fitzgerald is a DSS
Attorney, and DSS is his client. She stated that the foster and kinship families do not
understand this relationship or are not told of this relationship. She stated there is a lack of
communication, and communication is sorely needed. She stated that there is much to tell,
and it is all in the books provided. She stated that there were recent case findings in a letter
that the State provided during the investigation. She stated the letter indicated that Person
County followed the law, rule, and policy in the administration of a certain case, however
the letter omits any description of these policies and the definition of administration that
took place. She stated the letter continues by stating that there are areas of needed
improvement, and did not clarify what they are.
Corina Clay of 6939 Hurdle Mills Road, Hurdle Mills stated that she is here on
behalf of the DeYoung Family. She stated that she is not a Person County native, but she
has made Person County her heart. She stated that Person County is her family now and
she feels connected and close to this community. She stated that when she saw the story of
what the DeYoung Family was suffering through, it absolutely broke her heart. She stated
that she is now finding out that we can also help or veterans community. She stated, how
do we not look out for the children while we are looking out for our veterans community.
She stated these are two of the communities in Person County that need our help the most,
and she feels like they are forgotten, especially the children, the at-risk children. She
stated that this is a very important issue, and pleaded to the Board to do this. She stated
that obviously something is broken, if it were not broken, we would not be here tonight.
PJ Gentry of 541 Byrd Creek Lane, Hurdle Mills stated that there is a lot going on,
and there is going to be a lot of opposition speaking tonight. She stated there is a problem
with DSS. She stated that we have known it for years. She stated that this is the Board’s
opportunity to peel the layers of onion back and have some control. She stated this is our
County, these are our people, and these are our children. She stated that in her experience,
as Ms. Bradsher stated, she was stone-walled trying to get information. She stated she has
a thick file of letters and requests from employees of DSS that she help them. She stated
employees were afraid, they were afraid of their jobs. She stated that one of the DSS
Department Heads here tonight had no problem requesting a private meeting with her, in a
public space to complain about DSS. She stated that the Department Head was fishing to
see what she might have discovered.
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Gentry stated it is corrupt, there are people that want to keep things hidden from
the Board, the public, and from the people they serve. She stated that the Board needs to
look at the reports, the money trail, and follow where the money goes.
The following individuals spoke in opposition of whether the Board of Commissioners
should adopt a Resolution to Change the Organization and Governance of Some of the
County’s Human Services Functions:
Carlton Paylor of Haywood Bailey Road, Roxboro stated that he is the Director of
Person County DSS. He stated that he has been blessed to be the Director of DSS, and to
work for DSS for 19 years. He stated that he was born and raised in Person County. He
stated that in regards to consolidation, there have been numerous statements and slander
without any facts or proof. He stated, let us discuss the facts and proof of the matter. He
stated the Child Welfare case has unfortunately been discussed in the public. He stated
that Peter West, Section Chief for the County Operations Division of Social Services, has
verified it. He stated the letter indicated that policies were followed, and the children were
safe. He stated that two Commissioners previously stated, they would let the State report
of that case determine if they would vote for consolidation. He stated that the State has
asked for Person County to pilot a couple of programs for safety assessments because they
know what Person County DSS does is accurate before they put this on the entire state. He
stated that you could ask Peter West. He stated that DSS has two human resources for the
hiring process, the State and Person County. He stated applicants must meet certain
qualifications and are reviewed by both HR departments. He stated that pay raises have
truly been earned, unfortunately the turnover rate at DSS is due to surrounding counties
performing pay studies, and receiving pay raises as well. He stated that DSS has lost
multiple employees to other counties, such as, Wake, Vance, and Granville. He stated that
according to Children’s Services Practice Notes Volume IV No. 3, rates of turnover for all
DSS staff has ranged between 24-32%, with an average of 29%. He stated that for Person
County, according to our own HR department, for FY23, our turnover rate was
approximately 20%. He stated that the Commissioners and the DSS Board have not met to
discuss any concerns to have a major change for the largest department in the County. He
stated without any conversations, this is not the best practice, nor is it beneficial to County
employees or citizens. He stated that DSS makes up about 25% of the full-time employees
of Person County Government. He stated that for 26% of 2023, there was children
sleeping in the DSS building under staff supervision, and yet staff was still able to meet
the demands of the job. He stated that he is in support of the veterans getting a full-time
staff member; however, he does not support doing it through DSS. He stated follow the
money, DSS has passed every audit, and advised that you can verify that with the Finance
Director.
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Kristy Perry of Hillsborough stated that she is in her 25- year career at Person
County DSS. She stated that she has observed the work environment to be one that has
promoted growth from within as well as sought talent from the outside when needed. She
stated that she is an example of someone who has been able to grow within the agency.
She stated that she has worked in Service Intake, Child Welfare Support, and
Management. She stated that she has been promoted, but she also has been the employee
who has applied for promotions and another candidate was chosen. She stated that her
path to Deputy Director was not necessarily a smooth one. She stated that there has been
allegations of cronyism at DSS, and consolidating DSS would only cultivate an
environment for those allegations to flourish. She stated that currently DSS employees are
subject to the State Human Resources Act (SHRA), which means that a state agency,
someone outside of Person County Government, is reviewing DSS employee practices.
She stated the Office of State Human Resources, determines the minimum qualifications
for agency jobs by reviewing applicant’s education and job experience to qualify them for
a position. She stated that individuals are chosen not for who they know, or who they are
in this community, but rather by what they bring to the table as employees. She stated, in
addition, when disciplinary action occurs, DSS employees’ actions, are reviewed by both
the state and local HR departments to ensure that these actions are just. She stated that this
gives the County an extra layer of protection, as well as the employee, because they have
the option to file an appeal with the Office of Administrative Hearings, an unbiased
agency. She stated a public attack on DSS started this process and within months, here we
are looking to make drastic changes to DSS employee rights and protections. She stated
that at least two of the Board members, previously stated that the outcome of the State
investigation would influence their vote. She stated that she hoped they are men of their
word. She stated that she would like to see both Boards working together in the future to
improve employee and client experiences here in Person County.
Tyler Terry of Henderson stated that she is the Child Welfare Program Manager in
Person County. She stated that she started in Person County in January 2021 as the CPS
Supervisor, and was promoted to the Program Manager in April 2023. She stated that what
they do at DSS is not easy. She stated they are touching people’s lives when they are in
the most need, usually a critical time. She stated unfortunately, the results are not what
they wanted. She stated that sometimes people are disgruntled and upset with DSS, not
because they did not do their job, but because they do their job. She stated what she has
seen is, not everyone is suited for a job at DSS. She stated that policy is always changing,
and they have to keep up with that. She stated she has to ask, what exactly does the
County want to get from consolidation? She stated, everything she has read, the
Commissioners would have the same powers that the current DSS Board holds. She stated
what is it. Are the County and the Commissioners seeking to hold the power to hire and
fire the Director? She stated if that is the reason, why? She stated good management does
not jump and make hasty decisions. She stated there is no room for politics at DSS. She
stated that she travels 45 minutes through two counties to work in Person County.
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Terry stated she has 18 years’ experience working at DSS and could easily work in
another County for money, but she chooses to stay because she loves working in Person
County, loves the people she serves, and the people that she works with. She stated they
work extremely hard at DSS to help people in Person County. She stated that
Commissioners have previously stated that they would base their decision on the
information from the State regarding a complaint against DSS. She stated that she is here
to proudly read part of that letter from the State. She stated the letter reads as follows: NC
DHHS became aware of a complaint that a local citizen had shared with the Person
County Board of Commissioners. Section Chief Peter West reached out to you to discuss
the case. It was agreed that Person County would gather the full record and the Regional
Child Welfare Specialist would review it. This review was conducted on October 27,
2023. The review showed that Person County followed law, rule and administration policy
in administration of this case.
Melinda Hudson of Alton stated that she is the Services Program Manager,
promoted from Adult Services Supervisor, formally a Workforce Employment Social
Worker. She stated that she has been employed by Person County since 1995; however,
ones like her are not mentioned. She stated she is one of the silent group of people that
you do not talk about or talk to. She stated the only ones you hear about are the ones who
leave. She stated that she chooses to stay, and this past August marked 28 years of doing
work that matters in people’s lives. She stated that the majority of those years involved
doing work that affects safety and well-being of elderly or disabled adults. She stated, why
would she want to put herself out there to be responsible for making decisions, decisions
about people’s capacity to stay in their homes or not, decisions to take legal action to force
them into a facility because they lack the capacity to decide for themselves, and decisions
that make other citizens upset when she follows policy that mandates she walk away and
leave people in a bad situation because they do have the capacity to decide for themselves.
She stated she continues to do so because DSS has policies, General Statutes, and best
practice models to follow. She stated that they have State Consultants providing oversight
and continuous quality improvement. She stated that they have monitoring in all program
areas to make sure they follow policy and provide feedback to best serve the community.
She stated that they do this so that they have that safety net of local management and State
guidance and oversight to help support their decisions. She stated that they use sound
judgement from years of experience and policy to guide their actions. She stated
consolidation is not going to change, nor will it enhance any of that. She stated, how
would consolidation help her do her job better. She stated that she has not heard that from
anyone, and she would like to go on record of saying that she has never been told that she
could not speak to anyone who came around to DSS.
Kim King of Roxboro stated that she is the Supervisor of the Foster Care and
Adoptions Unit at DSS. She stated that she has been with DSS for 24 years, 9 months, and
12 days. She stated that she was born and raised here, that it is a great place to live, raise a
family, and work. She stated, there is no other agency she wanted to work for other than
DSS, under Carlton Paylor.
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King stated that they are a team at DSS with one goal in mind, safety. She stated
the past few years have been challenging. She stated that DSS worked through COVID
when many places were not open. She stated that COVID reduced the number of
placements in the State that has led to kids staying in our local office where staff provides
24/7 care while doing their full-time job, including spending the night. She stated that
DSS employees are the first in line to help these kids and the last to leave the office. She
stated that they are cursed at, hung up on, threatened, chased, assaulted, and still their goal
is to make sure the children are safe to go home before they can go home. She stated that
due to confidentiality, what you have seen over the past few months is one side of each
story that has been shared, and that it is easy to blame others or complain if things do not
go your way. She stated that not everyone is going to be happy with the outcomes. She
stated what DSS does every day takes a lot of paperwork, a lot of fact checking, a lot of
over time, and a lot of heart. She stated to watch videos and pictures put out on social
media taken out of context, and having her name and reputation out on display without her
ability to stand up for herself due to that confidentiality is indescribable. She stated that
working at DSS is not an 8:00-5:00 job, they work 24/7, and she has missed so many
family events because of work hours, has received calls while on vacation, and has
received calls while she was out of the office sick. She stated that when she is not at work,
she is still working. She stated that Social Workers are the First Responders to children in
need. She stated that once we knock on that family’s door, everything changes. She stated
that we make those decisions for families every day based on information provided, just as
you Commissioners do by making decisions with the information, you are provided. She
stated that DSS continues to assess families for more information and facts to make final
decisions, just as you Commissioners are elected to do. She stated, is consolidation the
Boards’ way to try to achieve power and control over a well-established agency that
already has State reviews and audits to oversee policy and procedures. She stated, do you
see changing the oversight of the agency is a way to support public opinion each time a
case does not go their way. She stated, do you think overseeing the agency would give you
the ability to be privy to confidential records in the future. She stated, what does
consolidation mean to you, as a Board, and you should be proud, as she is, to share that
DSS is a well-organized agency with the State supporting us, following policies,
mandates, and outcomes in Child Welfare.
Eric Turley of Roxboro stated that he is a licensed foster parent in Person County,
and has been for about 4 years. He stated that despite the challenges faced by staff
handling up to about 100 kids that are currently in foster care, we have learned there is no
one size fits all solution for termination of rights or reunification with biological parents.
He stated that Person County locals have highlighted the disparity between caregivers’
perspectives and judicial rulings emphasizing the complexity of the legal system as it is.
He stated that in a specific instance, his advocacy for a child exposed the Medicaid fraud
by a therapy company. He stated that caseworkers reported the fraud to Medicaid, and that
he faced a counter claim of abuse. He stated that DSS brought three caseworkers to his
house to see the child, and investigate the claim displaying their professionalism and
commitment to protecting the children in DSS care.
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Turley stated the caseworkers are charged with juggling multiple needs from a
caseload of 20 children or more, often traveling long distances, working long hours to
meet the needs of those they serve. He stated he has seen both sides of the coin during his
time as a foster parent. He stated the caseworkers work with the constraints they are given,
and provide the support to him when he needed to deal with situations that he was unable
or incapable of dealing with. He stated with the monthly interactions and court updates,
collaborative efforts with all parties reflect the system’s dedication to the well-being of the
children we all advocate foe. He stated that he appreciates the relationships with the
Guardian Ad Litems, the caseworkers, the biological parents, and everyone that is
involved in the process. He stated that he invites all to attend the next Foster Care class,
where they can be a part of the solution.
Stephanie Bowen of Timberlake stated that she is not an employee; she is a
licensed foster parent in Person County. She stated that she and her husband have been
fostering for over 10 years. She stated that she and her husband might be one of the
longest running foster families that have continued to foster for Person County. She stated
that she has worked with five or six different caseworkers and has had thirteen kids in and
out of her home in the last twelve years. She stated that they have done kinship placement.
She stated they have had babies that were placed with them, and were there over 18
months, then a family member pops up, and then they go to that family. She stated that is
the law, you have to abide in the law, and there is only so much you can do in those
situations. She stated that she has sat in court, she has cried, and she has had kids taken out
of her arms. She stated it is not easy, it sucks, and her heart bleeds for all the people that
have been hurt, as she knows how it feels. She stated that it is always consistent with the
way the workers have done their policies and their procedure. She stated that she has had
visits from social workers and guardian ad litem every month, permanency plan and
review every ninety days, and she is a part of those things, and hears and knows what is
going on. She stated that it has been that way for over 10 years. She stated that she has had
some great testimonies with workers from DSS, then there were some like oil and water
that she did not care for; however, every single one has always done it the same way. She
stated that the policies and procedures were always followed, in her and her family’s
experience. She stated that you have to follow the law. She stated that she has spoken to
lawyers, senators, governors, and the House of Representatives to discuss changing the
law. She stated that she wanted Ms. Vikki to get her job, her dad is a veteran. She
expressed thanks to the veterans for their service.
Jennifer Hull-Rogers of Roxboro stated that she is a member of the community and
has been employed with DSS 18 years next month. She stated regarding this perceived
need to reorganize the agency, she asked the Board to deeply consider their motives and
reasoning. She stated sound judgement cannot be rendered through information rooted in
half-baked conspiracy theories. She stated that decisions that are based on disinformation
and fallacy are of no merit, and do not serve the community well. She stated that those
who deal in such devious methods of communication are no friends of truth. She stated
that this is not the first time this issue has been presented.
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Hull-Rogers stated with a recent State review of DSS being conducted, some if not
all, of the Board felt it prudent to await the results before making a decision. She stated
that this demonstrates forethought, which is logical and measured, a wise decision. She
stated the review concluded that the laws and regulations of DSS were upheld with no
evidence of wrongdoing. She stated that those are the facts. She stated that DSS is not
perfect, no agency ever will be. She stated spreading baseless accusations of impropriety
only serves to undermine confidence in our local government organization, the very
people who work hard to serve this County. She expressed her dissatisfaction and
disappointment in some of those within the community during the time leading up to the
Boards’ forthcoming decision. She stated herself and other members of DSS have found
their reputations and integrity unjustly attacked here in the community and through social
media. She stated that her colleagues and herself have had their commitment and
dedication questioned through outright lies and half-truths. She stated this character
assassination makes their jobs even more difficult and could be detrimental to those in
need of their services. She stated those seeking to spread these falsehoods certainly do not
have the community’s interest at heart, only self-interest. She stated that as an agency that
serves the public, they welcome support that benefits the public; however, what they do
not need is oversight to cripple them with anxiety and doubt to the point where they
become ineffectual.
Megan Elliott of Leasburg stated that she is the Accounting Supervisor at DSS.
She stated that she strongly recommended not going through with consolidation. She
stated that consolidation is not the solution to the problem. She stated consolidating would
not remove State and Federal laws and guidelines that they follow. She stated that it would
not overturn rulings by judges, and it would not give the Board access to DSS confidential
files. She stated that it is very concerning to her that none of the Board has talked to the
DSS Board, or any current employees. She stated that the people the Board are listening to
are upset that things did not go their way. She stated that the Board fails to recognize that
DSS employees have jobs to do that are regulated by the State and Federal Government.
She stated that it is concerning to her that the Board wants to take control of an agency
that they do not understand and know so little about. She stated that Commissioner
Thomas sits on the DSS board, attends every monthly meeting, and has received vital
information, yet has failed to report on anything to his fellow Commissioners. She stated
that the County has an HR department of five when fully staffed, and you are willing to
dump 100 plus more employees on them. She stated that politics does not belong in DSS,
just as it does not belong in our schools and churches. She advised that the Commissioners
appointed Danny Johnson and Jason Thomas to the DSS Board, the State appointed Faye
Martin, and is working to fill a vacant seat. She stated the DSS Board appointed Treco
Lea-Jeffers. She stated that if the Board had any concerns, they should have reached out to
the DSS Board. She stated that DSS has a Director that has been in the trenches working
at DSS as a Social Worker for six years, and as a Director for 13 years.
Elliott stated that she has the knowledge, the experience, and understands and
believes in what DSS employees do. She stated yet, here we have a retired educator, a
banker, a business owner, a plumber, and a plant manager thinking they can manage an
agency that cares and protects individuals prior to birth, and even some to death. She
stated, she thinks not.
Tom Fitzgerald of Roxboro stated he appreciated the opportunity to be here to
speak against the solution that has been proposed. He stated that he has only being doing
this for over 40 years, and he has seen many changes in the composition of workers in
those years. He stated that they are hamstrung a little bit to respond to some of the things
that have been said about DSS due to confidentiality. He stated that it is hard to tell
everything that they would know about the hundreds of cases that go before DSS every
year. He stated that they only have twenty-four days of court to try to figure out these
cases when it is time to go to court. He stated that they deal with other things, such as
incompetency cases, childcare, and child finances. He stated the cases are always looked
over by a judge. He stated that the worker may want a different outcome, but it is a
judge’s decision. He stated reunification is always part of the plan, until it gets to where it
is not. He stated they deal with Child Support, when parents ask for assistance to support
the child. He stated Child Support has rules and regulations they have to follow, as well as
guidelines that are set by the State of NC.
This concluded the public speaking portion of the public hearing.
Chairman Powell expressed thanks to all that came out to speak and share their
opinions. He stated that what the Board of Commissioners is considering in this action is
whether to consolidate DSS and another County agency under the supervision of the
Board of County Commissioners. He advised that this topic is not new, it was introduced a
few years back. He stated at that time, it resulted in no action by the Board. He reiterated
that the topic is not new; they have talked about it quite a bit. He stated that the current
Board has done its homework and due diligence, and has communicated within and
without the department and with other agencies in the County, especially DSS. He stated
with all that being said, the Board is able to make a good sound and right decision on the
subject tonight. He stated that this has nothing to do with the current DSS Board. He
stated the DSS Board members are appointed and volunteer people and he appreciated
them and all the hard work they have done over the years. He stated the proposed
consolidation, DSS and one County department is an effort to solve some issues related to
the day-to-day operations to improve services to our citizens. He stated several people
have mentioned the letter from the State. He stated the County Manager requested the
letter, and the State did respond. He stated the State did not identify any specific wrong
doings; however, they did identify and speak of changes that needed to be made. He stated
that he was one of the two that someone referred to as basing his decision on the report.
He stated that is not accurate. He stated that the letter was to be used as a point of
reference for consideration. Chairman Powell stated that he has read and has considered
what the State has said. He clarified that was part of the checks and balances in his mind.
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Powell stated he is not speaking for other Commissioners, but he himself,
considered and the State acknowledged that changes needed to be made, however, none
were identified and none were pointed out. He stated that one important advantage of
consolidation would be direct involvement with County officials rather than seeking
assistance from the State and some representative that does not know any of us, nor any of
the people that they are dealing with. He stated with the State involved, they were like a
third party involvement. He stated by years of experience dealing with the State, he thinks
we can all say that anytime we turn something over to the State, we are in trouble because
we are taking that authority and control away from local officials. He stated that there is
an advantage of DSS employees being able to go to a person within the County. He stated
that we have a County Manager, we have Human Resources, and it makes sense to him to
be able to go within rather than complaining to someone outside and then waiting long
term for them to give you feedback. He stated that he believes consolidation would
enhance the day-to-day operation by direct involvement of County staff, which would
simplify the operations by again providing direct and more effective day-to-day oversight
and a higher level of accountability to the citizens of the County. He stated that County
supervision would eliminate the need for DSS employees to go to the State when
questions or concerns arise. He stated that it seems much simpler, yet more effective for
employees to go through County staff with their concerns than someone outside the
County at the State level. He stated that DSS employees’ salaries and benefits are
provided by the County, and not by the State. He said that this may sound crazy, and we
might could agree that the county pays the salaries and provides the benefits, yet have no
say in anyway whatsoever as to what goes on within the DSS department and its
employees. He stated that he believes this is one thing that has contributed to a lot of
confusion in the public, where the public views this Board as having control, yet it does
not. He stated, in the eyes of the public, it does create concern at times. He stated that
consolidation would solve that issue.
A motion was made by Commissioner Puryear and carried 5-0 to close the duly
advertised public hearing for Whether the Board of Commissioners Should Adopt a
Resolution to Change the Organization and Governance of Some of the County’s Human
Services Functions.
Commissioner Palmer stated that former and current employees that were
distraught and had concerns have approached him at various places across the County. He
stated that it is disturbing to him to know that we have such an agency with flaws. He
stated he agrees with Person County Government taking oversight. He stated that we
could eliminate some of these flaws because you got the County right here, you do not
have to go to Raleigh, or wait for them to call or email you back. He stated that he likes
the idea of consolidation.
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Vice Chairman Sims stated that the DSS job is not an easy job. He stated that he
would not want to be in that department, and deal with it on a daily basis. He stated that he
is not after or wanted to see the Director replaced. He stated that he is not here to say that
his job or any of the other employees’ jobs are in jeopardy. He stated we have heard some
compelling stories from those who were in favor of consolidation and those who were
against it. He stated that this a tough decision for the Board, as they have to sit here and do
what is best, and in the best interest of Person County. He stated that he has had
employees with DSS contact him confidentially and have expressed their concerns. He
stated there is no doubt we cannot change the law, however, we need to look at internally
how we handle managing the employees. He stated we need to be sure to investigate that
we are not showing any favoritism and that salaries are consistent. He stated that he is in
favor of consolidation of DSS with the veterans as this is the best decision for Person
County at this time. He stated that Vikki has done an outstanding job with the veterans,
and he has some concerns that she and the veterans need somewhere to meet that is more
private.
Commissioner Puryear stated that at the November meeting when this was first
brought up, he had made a comment about wanting PATS to be included in the
consolidation. He stated at that time there was a lot of uncertainty about the impact and
affect it would have on our veterans. He stated since that time, they have all done their
homework and can see some opportunity and goodness that would come from
consolidating veterans with DSS. He stated that he is in agreement with consolidation and
would support veteran’s services to be included.
Commissioner Thomas stated that this is a tough decision for him as he has served
on the DSS Board for the past year and has become close with the people on the DSS
Board. He stated that he respects each of them, and there is not one on the DSS Board that
does not truly care about DSS or the people involved with DSS. He stated that we have an
opportunity to help two different groups out. He stated that he is in favor of consolidation.
County Manager Cathey advised the Board that they would be creating a
Consolidated Human Services Agency to include both Social Services and Veteran
Services. She stated the next decision point would be the governance of the Consolidated
Human Services Agency. She stated the options there would be the Board of
Commissioners assuming the duties and responsibilities of the governing board for that
agency or appointing a separate Consolidated Human Services Board that would function
as the governing board for the agency and that is the one that is stipulated in General
Statutes. She stated as far as the composition of that board, it would require four persons
who are consumers of Human services, eight persons who are Professionals, Psychologist,
Pharmacist, Engineer, Dentist, Optometrist, Veterinarian, Social Worker, Registered
Nurse, two Physicians licensed to practice medicine in NC, one of whom, must be a
Psychiatrist, one member of the Board of Commissioners, and any other persons not to
exceed twenty-five members.
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Cathey stated that is the next decision point as far as the governing body for the
Consolidated Human Services Agency. She stated Option B, and Option D both involve
the Board of County Commissioners being the governing body. She stated Option B, as
outlined in the agenda abstract is the Commissioners serving as the Social Services Board,
not creating a Consolidated Human Services Agency. She stated Option D is creating a
Consolidated Human Services Agency with the Board of Commissioners’ governance of
that agency. She stated Option C, is where an appointed Board would come into play.
CONSIDERATION TO GRANT OR DENY REQUEST
A motion was made by Commissioner Puryear and carried 5-0 to go with Option
D, creating a Consolidated Human Services Agency with the Board of Commissioners
governance of that agency, and to adopt a Resolution to Change the Organization and
Governance of Some of the County’s Human Services Functions.
Cathey advised the Board that there are some other things they need to discuss and
get direction on as it relates to Option D. She stated for the Resolution, under this option,
she would need to know the desire of the Board as it relates to keeping employees under
the State Human Resources Act or solely under County Personnel Policies. Commissioner
Palmer expressed interest in removing employees from the SHRA and keeping them
solely under County Personnel Policies. Cathey asked the Board for an effective date of
creating the Consolidated Human Services Agency. She stated that we want to make sure
that employees are informed of the decision and have the opportunity to ask questions and
understand how the transition would take place. She advised that once the Board assumes
the powers and duties of the governing board, the next step would be discussion of who to
designate as the Consolidated Human Services Agency Director, as it would require the
advice and consent of the governing board. It was the consensus of the Board to have the
County Manager present the Resolution at the January 16, 2024 meeting and make the
Consolidated Agency effective ninety days after that date, which would be April 15, 2024.
Chairman Powell stated he would like to make a motion to do a couple of things
with Veterans Services. He stated that proper space needed to be determined within the
existing space at Freedom House for the VSO.
A motion was made by Chairman Powell and carried 5-0 to look for funding to
make the VSO a full-time position and to relocate Veteran Services to the Human Services
Building.
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INFORMAL COMMENTS:
The following individuals appeared before the Board to make informal comments:
Andrea Childers of 270 Blackberry Lane, Rougemont stated that she has lived in
Person County for thirty-one years. She stated that she could not believe what a farce the
December 4, 2023 Board meeting was. She stated that it was clear that the Board had already
made up their minds. She stated no matter what their constituents wanted to say, the Board
was not going to consider any facts that were presented during the public comment period.
She stated that if Christ himself spoke to you for His two minutes and asked you to not
destroy His planet, you still would have voted to rezone. She stated that you have to answer
to your maker. She stated that Thomas Jefferson and other Founding Fathers said in the
Declaration of Independence said the following: Governments are instituted among Men,
deriving their just power from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of
Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter it. She
stated that she has not forgotten the injustice that their representative body inflicted upon
their constituents. She stated that she would continue to remind them of this all year long as
she refuses to be a silent sacrifice to their fossil fuel gods.
DISCUSSION/ADJUSTMENT/APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA:
A motion was made by Commissioner Sims and carried 5-0 to approve the Consent
Agenda with the following items:
A. Budget Amendment # 15,
B. Resolution of Support to Abandon ±1.06 Miles of State Road 1377 (Dunnaway
Road) between SR 1377 and SR 1336(McGhees Mill Road) from the State
Maintained Road System,
C. Person Area Transportation System (PATS) Drug and Alcohol Testing
Policy,
D. Airport Maintenance Agreement, and
E. 2024 Commissioner Committee Assignments
NEW BUSINESS:
APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMITTEES
Clerk to the Board Michele Solomon presented to the Board interested citizen and
agency applications for consideration for appointment to boards and committees in response
to an ad published in the local newspaper and on the county website. Clerk Solomon
requested the Board to nominate for appointment as deemed appropriate.
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Adult Care Home Community Advisory Committee
1-Year Initial Term; 3-Year Reappointment: 4 positions available
1) CharleneWilkinsrequestsreappointmentashertermexpiredon12/31/2023
A motion was made by Commissioner Palmer and carried 5-0 to reappoint
Charlene Wilkins to the Adult Care Home Community Advisory Committee for a 3-year
term.
Airport Commission
3-Year Term
1) Robert Wilkerson requests reappointment as his term expired on 12/31/2023
A motion was made by Commissioner Thomas and carried 5-0 to reappoint
Robert Wilkerson to the Airport Commission for a 3-year term.
Board of Adjustment
3-Year Term: 2 positions available and 1 position for an Alternate
1) Elizabeth Bradsher requests appointment
2) James Thomasson requests appointment
3) Andrea Childers requests appointment
4) Bernhard Lampert requests appointment
A motion was made by Commissioner Sims and carried 5-0 to appoint James
Thomasson and Bernhard Lampert to the Board of Adjustment for a 3-year term.
Environmental Issues Advisory Committee
3-Year Term: 1 position for a citizen residing in each of the following townships:
the Holloway Township, the Flat River Township and the Olive Hill Township
1) Bailey Hunt requests appointment for the Flat River Township
A motion was made by Commissioner Sims and carried 5-0 to approve Bailey Hunt
to the Environmental Issues Advisory Committee for a 3-year term.
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Juvenile Crime Prevention Council
1-Year Initial Term: 2-Year Reappointment
2 positions available for a citizen under the age of 21(one may be a member of the public
representing the interests of families of at-risk juveniles);
2- Year Term: 1 position for each of the following: Juvenile Defense Attorney, and up to 3
citizens-at-large positions
The following applicant’s term expired on 12/31/2023:
1) Ashley Stone requests reappointment- Social Services Director or Designee
2) Alisa Black requests reappointment- District Attorney or Designee
3) John Hoyte Stultz III requests reappointment- Chief District Court Judge or
designated Judge
4) Aron Lappin requests reappointment- Local Sheriff or Designee
5) Louise Oliver requests reappointment-Citizen-at-Large
6) Dr. Ron Anthony requests reappointment- Local School Superintendent or
Designee
7) John Hill requests reappointment- Local Parks and Recreation Representative
A motion was made by Commissioner Palmer and carried 5-0 to reappoint Ashley
Stone, Alisa Black, John Hoyte Stultz III, Aron Lappin, Louise Oliver, Dr. Ron Anthony,
and John Hill to the Juvenile Crime Prevention Council for a 2-year term.
The following applicant requests appointment to fill County Manager or Designee
unexpired term to 12/31/2024:
1) Brian Hart requests appointment – County Manager or Designee
A motion was made by Commissioner Puryear and carried 5-0 to appoint Brian
Hart to the Juvenile Crime Prevention Council to fill unexpired term to 12/31/2024.
PATS Transportation Advisory Board
3-Year Term:
1 position available for an occupational affiliation representative for a medical related
service;
1 unexpired term to 6/30/24 for a representative of Economic Development/Chamber of
Commerce
1) FroncelloBumpassrequestsreappointmentashistermexpiredon12/31/2023
A motion was made by Commissioner Palmer and carried 5-0 to reappoint
Froncello Bumpass to the PATS Transportation Advisory Board for a 3-year term.
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Planning Board
3-Year Term
1) Tabitha George requests reappointment as her term expired on 12/31/2023
2) Zakiya James requests reappointment as her term expired on 12/31/2023
A motion was made by Commissioner Puryear and carried 5-0 to reappoint Tabitha
George and Zakiya James to the Planning Board for a 3-year term.
Region K Aging Advisory Council
3-Year Term
1) Robert Allen requests reappointment as his term expired on 12/31/2023
A motion was made by Commissioner Puryear and carried 5-0 to reappoint Robert
Allen to the Region K Aging Advisory Council for a 3-year term.
Workforce Development Board
1-Year Initial Term; 2-Year Reappointment
1 position available for a member or an officer of organized labor
1) Dr. Barbara Buchanan requests reappointment as her term expired on 12/31/2023
A motion was made by Commissioner Sims and carried 5-0 to reappoint Dr.
Barbara Buchanan to the Workforce Development Board for a 2- year term.
CHAIRMAN’S REPORT:
Chairman Powell stated that we have entered in to 2024, and he feels good about
what is going to happen in 2024. He stated that there is a lot going on, and we are very active
economically and involved with prospects. He stated the he has a good feeling that progress
would be made in Person County this year. He reminded everyone to shop local, and it is
good to support our local merchants. He stated that is what makes us successful
economically. He expressed thanks to the veterans and appreciates their service.
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MANAGER’S REPORT:
County Manager Katherine Cathey stated that there are many vacancies for
Volunteer Boards and Committees. She encouraged the public to consider ways that they
could serve. She stated the information on the County website would be updated following
tonight’s meeting with the vacancies that remain. She stated that the County would be
accepting applications for consideration by the Board of Commissioners at an upcoming
meeting. She stated please encourage your friends to get involved with volunteering to serve
on various boards and committees. She stated that Person County Government also has job
vacancies, and encouraged the public to look at those vacancies. She stated that Person
County is a great place to work.
COMMISSIONER REPORT/COMMENTS:
Vice Chairman Sims expressed thanks to all the veterans that came out tonight, and
thanked them for their service. He stated that he appreciated all they have done. He stated
that he is looking forward to working with and helping the veterans. He expressed thanks to
the Sheriff’s department for attending tonight. He stated that this was a very civil meeting
and under control. He stated that he appreciates everyone acting that way, whether they
were for or against what the Board voted for. He stated it was not a very good indication of
what we are like in Person County at our last meeting, and I hope those who saw that
understand, that is not who we are. He thanked all for coming out and looks forward to
2024.
Commissioner Palmer stated that he is glad the VSO position would be moving to a
full-time position. He stated that he is a veteran and appreciates what Ms. Vikki does for all
the veterans. He stated he is appreciative of the Sheriff’s department for attending tonight.
He stated it was a very good meeting and we did not have any backlash. He stated, he is just
going to spell it as it is, insanity, like we had at the last meeting. He stated he is thankful for
that because that tells him that we have some civil people here. He stated people who
attended the December 4, 2023 meeting were not County residents. He stated that those
people, most of them, were not from Person County and were paid to be here.
Commissioner Puryear expressed thanks for all that came out to the meeting to
speak. He expressed thanks to the veterans for their service. He expressed thanks to the
Sheriff’s department for everything they do and for being at the meeting. He stated that the
hardest job is making tough decisions. He stated that everyone might not agree with them,
but appreciates everyone coming out.
Commissioner Thomas expressed thanks for everyone coming to the meeting. He
thanked the veterans for coming out and advised he supports them. He expressed thanks to
the DSS Board for all their hard work over the years. He stated that he cannot speak enough
about them because he is a part of them, and he has become close to them. He added that he
respects all members of the DSS Board. He stated that we have a lot going on in Person
County, and he thinks we are going to have a good year, and is looking forward to it.
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CLOSED SESSION #1
A motion was made by Commissioner Sims and carried 5-0 to enter into Closed
Session # 1 at 8:57 p.m. per General Statute 143-318.11(a)(5) to establish, or to instruct
the public body's staff or negotiating agents concerning the position to be taken by or on
behalf of the public body in negotiating (i) the price and other material terms of a contract
or proposed contract for the acquisition of real property by purchase, option, exchange, or
lease; or (ii) the amount of compensation and other material terms of an employment
contract or proposed employment contract with the following individuals permitted to
attend: County Manager Katherine Cathey, Clerk to the Board Michele Solomon, County
Attorney Lydia Lavelle, Finance Director Amy Wehrenberg, and General Services
Director Ray Foushee.
Chairman Powell called the Closed Session #1 to order at 9:03 p.m.
A motion was made by Commissioner Sims and carried 5-0 to return to open
session at 9:23 p.m.
ADJOURNMENT:
A motion was made by Commissioner Palmer and carried 5-0 to adjourn the
meeting at 9:24 p.m.
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Michele Solomon Gordon Powell
Clerk to the Board Chairman