December 3PERSON COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS December 3, 2007
MEMBERS PRESENT OTHERS PRESENT
Johnny Myrl Lunsford, Chairman Steve Carpenter, County Manager
Jimmy B. Clayton, Vice-Chairman Ronald Aycock , County Attorney
Kyle W. Puryear Faye T. Fuller, Clerk to the Board
Larry H. Bowes Brenda Reaves, Deputy Clerk to the Board
Larry E. Yarborough, Jr.
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The Board of Commissioners for the County of Person, North Carolina, met in
regular session on Monday, December 3, 2007 at 7:00 p.m. in the Auditorium of the
Person County Office Building.
Chairman Lunsford called the meeting to order. Commissioner Clayton led in
prayer and Commissioner Bowes led the Pledge of Allegiance.
DISCUSSION/ADJUSTMENT/APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
A motion was made by Commissioner Bowes, seconded by Commissioner
Clayton and carried to approve agenda as presented.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Request to Amend Note 9: A Local Ordinance Regulating the Siting of
Wireless Telecommunications Facilities
A motion was made by Commissioner Puryear, seconded by Commissioner
Yarborough and carried to open the duly advertised Public Hearing.
County Planner Paula Murphy introduced Mr. Rusty Monroe with The Center for
Municipal Solutions. Mr. Monroe told the Board that due to new legislation, Senate Bill
831, it became necessary for Person County to revise its current Wireless
Telecommunication Ordinance- Note 9. He said the changes have been created to make
the process easier, faster and less costly to the applicant. The major changes are: 1. The
co-location process is streamlined; 2. the application fees are combined into one fee
which will include the amount to be paid to the consultant; 3. the applicant can submit a
Special Use Permit without a carrier but cannot obtain a Zoning Permit until there is a
carrier for the tower and 4. height is restricted to 120 feet, but the County can relax this
requirement to any height that is justified by the applicant. The County can give relief
for any height that it feels necessary.
Ms. Murphy informed the Board that the Planning Board held a Public Hearing on
November 8, 2007 and recommended approval in a 5 to 0 vote.
Chairman Lunsford asked if there was anyone who wished to speak in favor or in
opposition to the Amendment to Note 9. No one spoke.
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A motion was made by Commissioner Bowes, seconded by Commissioner
Yarborough and carried to close the Public Hearing.
A motion was made by Chairman Lunsford, seconded by Commissioner Clayton
and carried to approve the Amendment to Note 9: A Local Ordinance Regulating the
Siting of Wireless Telecommunications Facilities.
INFORMAL COMMENTS:
Patrick Riley – His family has been in Person County since 1762 family – there
is no finer place to live than Person County.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
A motion was made by Commissioner Puryear, seconded by Commissioner
Bowes, and carried to approve the minutes of November 6, 2007.
ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS:
A motion was made by Commissioner Clayton, seconded by Commissioner
Puryear and carried to accept the following Administrative Reports: Airport, Detention
Center and Fire Marshal.
CONSIDERATION OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND VESTED RIGHTS
APPLICATION PLAN FOR EXPANSION OF THE UPPER PIEDMONT
ENVIRONMENTAL LANDFILL:
County Attorney Aycock reviewed the procedures the Board is required by law to
follow during the deliberation of the Special Use Permit and Vested Rights Application
plan. He explained that the Special Use Permit proceeding is in law a quasi-judicial
proceeding. Mr. Aycock also stated that the each Board member has signed a statement
as follows:
IN THE MATTER OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND VESTED RIGHTS APPLICATION TO EXPAND THE
UPPER PIEDMONT ENVIRONMENTAL LANDFILL IN PERSON COUNTY:
I am aware that the law prohibits each of us from having a fixed opinion prior to hearing this matter that is
not susceptible to change, and from having undisclosed ex parte communications, close familial, business,
or other associational relationships with the applicant or other persons affected by this decision, or a
financial interest in the outcome of the matter. I hereby state the following:
1. I have no financial interest in the outcome of this matter, and
2. I have no close familial, business or other associational relationship with the applicant or
any other person affected by this decision, and
3. I have heard members of the public speak to our Board both as proponents and opponents
to the proposed landfill expansion during the public comment period, and
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4. I hereby disclose that to the best of my recollection I have had contact with the following
persons concerning this matter:
______________________________ _______________________________
, and
5. To the extent that I have expressed an opinion on this matter, it was preliminary and was
never a fixed opinion that was not susceptible to change, and
6. I shall make a decision in this matter based only upon facts learned or opinions heard at
this hearing and not upon preconceived notions, but only on the competent evidence
presented here tonight, and
7. I have not formed a fixed opinion prior to hearing this matter that is not susceptible to
change.
This 3rd day of December, 2007
Mr. Aycock further explained that the Board may take any one of several actions.
They can, on a majority vote, approve or deny the Special Use Permit, or approve the
Special Use Permit with conditions. The Board could decide they need more time to
deliberate and continue the decision to some time in the future.
County Manager Carpenter explained that staff had prepared a number of
documents to assist the Board in associating facts with findings. He said the attorney’s
for both sides had provided what, in their opinion, were the facts that substantiated their
case. Those documents from both Mr. John Runkle, representing PCPride and Steve
Weber, representing Republic Services. He told the Board it was now their duty to
decide what are the viable facts that correspond with the findings and based on those
facts, an action can be proposed that is supported by the facts.
County Attorney Aycock explained if the Board decided to take positive action,
it should be noted that the prepared proposal includes a proposal to make positive action
contingent upon action related to the site study and the socioeconomic and demographic
study.
At 7:30 p.m. the Board recessed to review and deliberate, each on their own, the
four documents as presented for consideration.
At 8:00 p.m. the meeting was called back to order.
Commissioner Puryear questioned if the Special Use Permit application included
the tonnage increase. County Attorney Aycock responded that it did not.
Commissioner Yarborough said after thoroughly reading the Special Use Permit
application, he could not find any details if the Special Use Permit is just to add the
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eleventh cell or is it part of the request Mr. Weber made in his closing argument at the
end of the Public Hearing.
County Attorney Aycock stated that the Planning Director had gone to get the
original document, but it was his opinion, that the increase in tonnage or increase in
geographic area served, is not a matter before the Board and not a part of the Special Use
Permit. He further explained that if positive action is taken by the Board there is still the
necessity for permitting at the state level, a negotiation of a contract and amending the
franchising ordinance. Increased geographic coverage and tonnage increase are items not
included in the approval of the Special Use Permit.
County Planner Paula Murphy read from the official Special Use Permit
application. We are submitting an application for a Special Use Permit and Vested
Rights on additional property currently owned by Republic Services of North Carolina.
The additional property totaling 93.8 acres is adjacent to and directly west of current
permitted landfill operation. This request for a Special Use Permit adds one (1)
additional landfill cell to the permitted Special Use for the site. This cell designated as
Cell #11 is approximately 13.9 acres in size.
Commissioner Puryear made the following motion: I move that the Board take the
following actions:
1. Adopt the Findings of Fact and action contained in the document entitled
“Proposed Findings of Fact for Board of County Commissioners Staff Draft.
2. Take NO action on the associated alternative sites information and
socioeconomic and demographic data issue until such time as:
(a) a thorough study of alternatives to waste disposal is made by a competent
professional which shall include a study of transfer stations or a county
run facility, and
(b) a study of the impacts of various pollutants on the citizens of Person
County and the effect of an increased landfill size on those impacts.
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PROPOSED FINDINGS OF FACT FOR BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS (REPUBLIC) – STAFF DRAFT
I move that the Board make the Findings of Fact and take the action contained
below:
Having heard and considered all the evidence and arguments submitted and introduced at
the hearing, the Board of County Commissioners hereby grants the Special Use Permit
application of applicant Republic Services of North Carolina, LLC, and hereby grants the
applicant’s request for vested rights status for a period of five years. The Board’s
conclusion is based on the following Findings of Fact:
1. It is the Board’s conclusion that the proposed use will not materially
endanger the public health or safety if located where proposed and
developed according to the plan as submitted and approved. This
conclusion is based on the following findings of fact:
(A) The proposed use is an expansion of an existing landfill that
currently is operated under two special use permits for uses that
this Board found not to materially endanger the public health or
safety. The proposed expansion will not result in additional
material impacts to public health or safety.
(B) The expansion may only proceed once the North Carolina
Department of Environment and Natural Resources considers the
public health and safety protections set forth in Republic’s permit
application and issues permits for construction and operation of the
expansion.
(C) During development, cell filling, and closure, a leachate collection
system will be utilized to ensure that all rainfall and any other
liquids within the cells will be collected and managed as leachate.
(D) The landfill liner system in place at the landfill and to be installed
in the expanded area of the landfill is protective of public health
and safety.
(E) No public water supply or service water intakes are located within
two miles of the perimeter of the facility.
(F) The facility’s groundwater discharges at on-site streams which
provide favorable groundwater monitoring conditions.
(G) The facility is not located in the critical area of a water supply
watershed. The stream adjacent to the site is classified as WS IV.
(H) The site plan complies with the Person County Planning
Ordinance.
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(I) No portion of the facility is located within any one hundred (100)
year flood plain as designated on the FEMA Flood Zone Map.
(J) No portion of the facility is within ten thousand feet (10,000’) of
any public or private airport runway.
(K) There are no geological hazards in the area. No portion of the
facility is located within two hundred (200’) of a fault that has a
displacement in the Holocene Tirne.
(L) The facility’s structure, including liners, leachate collection
system, and surface water control systems, is designated to
withstand all seismic activity projected for the site.
(M) Natural resources impact analyses have been conducted for the site
which indicate that the landfill does not adversely impact natural
resources, including endangered species, wetlands and cultural
resources.
(N) Traffic impacts of the proposed expansion will not materially
endanger public health or safety.
(O) Noise impacts of the proposed expansion will not materially
endanger public health or safety.
(P) Adequate measures are conducted to control odor at the facility.
(Q) Adequate measures are conducted to control litter at the facility.
2. It is the Board’s conclusion that the proposed use does meet all
required conditions and specifications. This conclusion is based on
the following findings of fact:
(A) The proposed use is an expansion of an existing landfill that is
operated under two special use permits. The applicant is in
compliance with all required conditions and specifications of its
current special use permits.
(B) The existing landfill (and the proposed expansion of that landfill)
is a permitted use in a Rural Conservation Zoning District upon the
approval of a special use permit by the Board of Commission.
(C) The proposed site plan complies with the Person County Planning
Ordinance.
(D) County Planning staff has concluded that the proposed use meets
all required conditions and specifications.
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3. It is the Board’s conclusion and recommendation that, in granting the
special use permit, the use will not substantially injure the value of
adjoining or abutting property, and that the use is a public necessity.
This conclusion is based on the following findings of fact:
(A) The proposed use is an expansion of an existing landfill that is
operated under two special use permits. The proposed expansion
will be within the footprint of the existing landfill and will not
have any additional, substantial impact on the value of adjoining or
abutting property.
(B) Data and market analyses of real property in the vicinity of the
Upper Piedmont and similar North Carolina landfills indicate that
the expansion will not substantially injure the value of adjoining or
abutting property.
(C) The site is isolated from the surrounding uses by both vegetative
and topographic features within the site. The site and lands around
the site are pastures, wooded production pine growth, and natural
hardwood stands. These wooded areas provide a visual and
wooded buffer around the facility. The total horizontal buffers
between the waste cells and the adjacent property are a minimum
of three hundred feet (300’).
(D) The character of the area is rural residential and agricultural.
Homes are generally situated on acreage tracts which provide a
buffer between neighbors.
(E) The proposed expansion is a public necessity as a result of recent
landfill legislation and stricter regulations resulting in the closure
of the pre-existing Person County landfill and the continued need
for a disposal site for municipal waste.
(F) As areas of the landfill are closed, they will be returned to pasture-
like vegetation.
(G) A Landfill Siting Study indicates that the existing landfill is one of
two possible sites for the proposed expansion in Person County,
and that the existing landfill is the preferred location for the
proposed expansion.
4. It is the Board’s conclusion and recommendation that, in granting the
special use permit, the location and character of the use, if developed
according to the plan as submitted and approved, will be in harmony
with the area in which it is to be developed and is in general
conformity with the plans of the area. This conclusion is based on the
following findings of fact:
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(A) The proposed use is an expansion of an existing landfill that is
operated under two special use permits. The expansion of the
existing landfill will continue to be in harmony with the
surrounding area and in conformity with the plans of the area.
(B) The site is isolated from surrounding land uses by both vegetative
and topographic features within the site. The site and the lands
around the site are pastures, wooded production pine growth, and
natural hardwood stands. These wooded areas provide a visual and
wooded buffer around the facility. The total horizontal buffer
between the waste cells and adjacent properties is three hundred
feet (300’).
(C) A line of sight analysis indicates that the final grade of the landfill
will be in harmony with the area.
(D) The character of the area is rural residential and agricultural.
Homes are generally situated on acreage tracts that provide for
buffers between neighbors.
(E) As areas of the landfill are closed, they will be returned to pasture
like vegetation.
(F) Traffic impact analysis indicates that the traffic impact of the
proposed use will be in harmony with the area as the existing
roadway has more than adequate capacity to handle any new traffic
generated by the proposed use.
(G) An acoustical analysis indicates that the noise impacts of the
proposed use will be in harmony with the area as the proposed use
will meet recommended compatibility requirements for residential
areas.
(H) Adequate measures are conducted to control odor at the facility.
(I) Adequate measures are conducted to control litter at the facility.
(J) The facility currently is operating under two special use permits
that are in general conformity with the comprehensive plan.
(K) The proposed use is in general conformity with the County solid
waste management plan and land use plan such that it is in general
conformity with the comprehensive plan.
(L) County Planning staff has concluded that the proposed use is in
general conformity with the comprehensive plan.
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5. It is the Board’s conclusion and recommendation that that the
applicant should be granted vested rights status for a period of five
years.
(A) Based on the findings of fact set forth above, and based on the fact
that once a special use permit is granted, the applicant will be
required to obtain construction and operation permits from
NCDENR (a process that could take a number of years), it is
appropriate to grant vested right status for a period of five years.
Conditioned on careful and thorough consideration of alternative sites
information and socioeconomic and demographic data with respect to the proposed
expansion of the Upper Piedmont Environmental Landfill and subject to the Board’s
determination that the existing Upper Piedmont Environmental Landfill site is the
appropriate location for the proposed expansion. The Board of County Commissioners
hereby:
1. Grants Republic Services of North Carolina, LLC’s application for a
Special Use Permit, and
2. Further grants Republic Services of North Carolina, LLC’s vested rights
status for a period of five (5) years.
The motion was seconded by Chairman Lunsford.
Commissioner Puryear offered the following conclusions:
Yes we have a landfill. We have ten years left on the contract. Should this county
proceed to the next public hearing for the alternative sites hearing? I don’t think we
should.
Should the county proceed to negotiate an extension to the existing contract between
Republic Waste Services and Person County? Not at this time.
Should the county proceed to negotiate additional tonnage at the Upper Piedmont
Environmental landfill? No we shouldn’t.
Should the county proceed to negotiate the existing service radius of the Upper Piedmont
Environmental landfill? Not at this time.
Should the county investigate alternative methods to solve our solid waste issues? Yes we
should.
Did Republic legally meet the criteria for the Special Use Permit to create an 11th cell?
Yes they did.
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What is the best solution to solve our solid waste problem? Frankly, I don’t know at this
point because there are other alternatives out there and I don’t think we should just be
focusing on Republic’s option. Is this problem going away? No it is not unless we do
something about it.
Commissioner Clayton stated he felt there were more issues than just adding one
cell. The fact that low level PCB’s were brought into the landfill must be considered that
might endanger the ground water as well as the employees at the landfill because other
things might be added with the soil. Republic stated property values around the landfill
had not been affected, however, a certified appraiser submitted evidence that land
adjoining the landfill sold for far less than land two miles from the landfill. The traffic
study omitted the two busiest garbage days of the week, Monday and Friday. When the
landfill is completed it will be 880 feet above sea level which is equal to the highest point
in Person County. He said he did not feel the landfill was in harmony with the rural
lifestyle. He further stated that he could not support proceeding with the Special Use
Permit at this point. He also expressed concern about the potholes in the road caused by
additional landfill truck traffic.
Commissioner Puryear clarified that he was not in favor of proceeding to the
Alternative Site hearing at the present time. He questioned if the county issued a Special
Use Permit, would Republic be able to proceed to the state permitting?
County Aycock stated he believed that an application to the state would be
consideration of alternative sites. He said he was not prepared to issue a ruling on
whether Republic could proceed pending the alternative sites consideration. Before final
approval, the alternative sites consideration is required.
Commissioner Puryear stated he felt it would be irresponsible of the county to not
consider all options.
Commissioner Bowes agreed with Commissioner Clayton and that the county
should not move forward until all issues have been answered.
Commissioner Yarborough commented that when the landfill expansion came up
two years ago, he was very much against it and was still not in favor of it this summer.
Since that time he has been exposed to many individuals who know a lot about landfills.
His opinion has changed as his knowledge has grown. If there was no landfill currently,
the decision would be easy-never. If there was no landfill the conditions of the Special
Use Permit would be hard to meet. No one will ever be happy with some of the problems
that have been demonstrated with the current arrangements. Many problems such as the
county not getting its fair share of the revenue will become more apparent as the cost of
waste disposal climbs. The issue of alternative daily cover is an ongoing problem.
Recycling has not been adequately addressed. The latest technology is being utilized.
The latest issue of the PCB’s is another example of problems with the present contract.
Person County does not need the money from an updated contract or an expanded
landfill. He said the county spends too much money already. That is a good reason to
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look into a contract at the present time. The old contract was negotiated when the county
needed a landfill. Today the county is in a much better position to negotiate a better
contract. The landfill is a regional resource. He said he was concerned that the state
might take over the landfill unless Person County can show it can control it. He said he
sees an opportunity to make the landfill better that we found it. Landfill can be better if
all work together to keep learning about the issue. He said those were the reasons he was
interested in further discussions about the future of the landfill. The Special Use Permit
is only the third step in a seven step process required to change the operation of the
landfill. He said he did not feel Republic was ready to seriously work with the county as
partners in the project. He said he was not willing to work with Republic until they have
earned his trust and shown they can be a responsible corporate citizen.
He said he has looked for a way to deny the request to add an 11th cell. An 11th
cell will not change anything about the present landfill. There was no evidence presented
that it did not meet the conditions and specifications that are required of the other cells.
One more cell will not significantly endanger the public health and safety more than the
other 10 cells. An additional cell is in harmony with the other 10 cells. He said he could
not find a good reason to deny the additional cell. The same is not true of the increase in
rate in which the waste is brought into the landfill. This request made in the Public
Hearing tripled the rate. That would have a substantial effect on the contracts that are
pursued by Republic. There would temptation to pursue contracts that would not be in
the best interest of Person County. He said he could not be sure that such an increase
would not endanger the public health and safety, which is condition number one.
Therefore, he stated, he could not vote in favor of increasing the daily tonnage at this
time. He said Commissioner Puryear’ idea of putting this off until further study is
completed is a good plan. Otherwise, he would approve the one cell.
ACTION: The motion offered by Commissioner Puryear carried by a 3/2 vote.
Commissioner Puryear, Lunsford and Yarborough voted in favor and Commissioners
Bowes and Clayton cast dissenting votes.
DISCUSSION OF COURTHOUSE SPACE NEEDS:
Amanda Garrett, Register of Deeds, Mr. Bill McCaffrey, MHA Works and Mr.
Lucien Roughton, Roughton-Nichelson-DeLuca, appeared before the Board and offered
four options for expansion of Courthouse space. They provided cost comparisons for
renovation of the old jail space in the courthouse, for lease of the Maxway building, and
lease or sale of a local building. Option 2 for the Maxway building would satisfy the
needs of the Register of Deeds and the Tax Office with a total of 12,827 square feet. The
up fit construction and design costs would be by the owner of the building.
A motion was made by Commissioner Clayton, seconded by Commissioner
Bowes and carried to direct the consultants to ask the owner of the former Maxway
building to confirm contract costs and that the contract be brought back to the Board for
consideration as soon as possible.
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REORGANIZATION OF BOARD:
County Attorney Ron Aycock presided over the reorganization of the Board. He
opened the floor for nominations for Chairman of the Board of Commissioners.
Commissioner Bowes nominated Johnny Myrl Lunsford. His nomination was seconded
by Commissioner Yarborough who also moved that the nominations be closed.
Chairman Clayton seconded his motion to close the nominations. By acclamation,
Johnny Myrl Lunsford was elected to Chairman of the Person County Board of
Commissioners.
Chairman Lunsford opened the floor for nominations for Vice-Chairman of the
Board of Commissioners. Commissioner Yarborough nominated Jimmy B. Clayton for
Vice-Chairman of the Board. His nomination was seconded by Commissioner Puryear.
Commissioner Yarborough then moved that the nominations be closed. His motion was
seconded by Commissioner Puryear. Jimmy B. Clayton was elected Vice-Chairman of
the Person County Board of Commissioners by acclamation.
CONSIDERATION OF REVISED FEE SCHEDULE FOR PERSONAL HEALTH
SERVICES:
Health Director Janet Clayton appeared before the Board to present a Revised Fee
Schedule for Personal Health Services which previously had been approved my Health
Management Staff and the Board of Health.
A motion was made by Commissioner Yarborough, seconded by Commissioner
Puryear and carried to approve the Revised Fee Schedule for Personal Health Services as
presented by the Health Director.
ADOPTION OF 2008 PERSON COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
MEETING SCHEDULE:
A motion was made by Commissioner Bowes, seconded by Chairman Lunsford
and carried to adopt the 2008 Person County Board of Commissioners’ Meeting
Schedule.
2008
Person County Board of Commissioners
Meeting Schedule
January 7, 2008 7:00 p.m.
January 22, 2008 (Tuesday) 9:00 a.m.
February 4, 2008 7:00 p.m.
February 18, 2008 9:00 a.m.
March 10, 2008 7:00 p.m.
March 17, 2008 9:00 a.m.
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April 7, 2008 7:00 p.m.
April 21, 2008 9:00 a.m.
May 5, 2008 7:00 p.m.
May 19, 2008 9:00 a.m.
June 2, 2008 7:00 p.m.
June 16, 2008 9:00 a.m.
July 7, 2008 7:00 p.m.
July 21, 2008 9:00 a.m.
August 4, 2008 7:00 p.m.
August 18, 2008 9:00 a.m.
September 2, 2008 (Tuesday) 7:00 p.m.
September 15, 2008 9:00 a.m.
October 6, 2008 7:00 p.m.
October 20, 2008 9:00 a.m.
November 3, 2008 7:00 p.m.
November 17, 2008 9:00 a.m.
December 1, 2008 7:00 p.m.
December 15, 2008 9:00 a.m.
**January 22nd meeting date changed due to Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Holiday
**March 10th meeting date changed due to NACo Conference
**September 2nd meeting date changed due to Labor Day Holiday
APPROVAL OF RIGHT-OF-WAY EASEMENT FOR ELECTRICAL
FACILITIES AT SCHOOL BUS GARAGE:
County Manager Carpenter presented a right-of-way easement for electrical
facilities Progress Energy will be installing on county owned property leased to the
Person County Board of Education for the new school bus garage. He said the
installation has been coordinated with the school personnel and the general contractor.
A motion was made by Commissioner Yarborough, seconded by Commissioner
Puryear and carried to approve a right-of-way easement by and between Person County
and Progress Energy Carolinas, Inc.
REQUEST FOR WATER LINE EXTENSION OFF PATTERSON DRIVE:
Paul Bailey appeared before the Board to present a request for a water line
extension off Patterson Drive. He said a request had been received from Gary L. Jones
for water and sewer line extensions to serve a proposed subdivision off Patterson Drive
(Patterson Drive Subdivision). The concept plan for this subdivision was approved by
the Board of Commissioners on May 7, 2007. He stated that Mr. Jones will bear the cost
of the extension, but in accordance with the City-County Joint Water and Sewer
Agreement, the Commissioners must approve any line extension outside the Roxboro
City limits. Roxboro City Council approved the request on November 13, 2007.
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A motion was made by Commissioner Clayton, seconded by Commissioner
Puryear and carried to approve the request for water line extension off Patterson Drive.
SUMMARY OF WORKSHOP ENTITLED “RURAL WATER AND WASTE
WATER PROJECTS”:
Assistant County Manager Paul Bailey appeared before the Board and shared
some highlights of the workshop held on November 14, 2007 and entitled “Rural Water and
Wastewater Projects: Getting to Success With Your Consulting Engineer”. He shared
the following some highlights with the Board
The North Carolina General Assembly, during its 2007 session, authorized $ 138.5
million for clean water infrastructure and other rural development programs. The Rural Center is
charged with administering the funds. $100 million is for Clean Water Partners Grants that help
local governments pay for water or sewer construction projects that address a documented
public health or environmental problem. Person County received a $400,000 Rural Center
Grant in 2004 to assist with water line extensions on NC 49 South, Popular Lane and Roxdale
Place.
Rural Center Grant applications are ranked on a point system. Bonus points can be received by
applicants for attending certain workshops.
1. Why local governments use consultants?
Lack of expertise and/or lack of time.
2. How do local governments choose consultants?
The Brooks Bill or N.C.G.S. 143-64.31 details how architects, engineers, and surveyors
are to be selected. I would like to read a portion of the bill to you.
Procurement of Architectural, Engineering, and Surveying Services.
§ 143-64.31. Declaration of public policy.
(a) It is the public policy of this State and all public subdivisions and Local
Governmental Units thereof, except in cases of special emergency
involving the health and safety of the people or their property, to
announce all requirements for architectural, engineering, surveying and
construction management at risk services, to select firms qualified to
provide such services on the basis of demonstrated competence and
qualification for the type of professional services required without regard
to fee other than unit price information at this stage, and thereafter to
negotiate a contract for those services at a fair and reasonable fee with
the best qualified firm. If a contract cannot be negotiated with the best
qualified firm, negotiation with that firm shall be terminated and initiated
with the next best qualified firm.
There are certain exemptions from this law and they are covered in N.C.G.S. 143-64.32.
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§ 143-64.32. Written exemption of particular contracts.
Units of local government or the North Carolina Department of Transportation
may in writing exempt particular projects from the provisions of this Article in
the in the case of:
(a) Proposed projects where an estimated professional fee is in a amount less
than thirty thousand dollars ($30,000), or
(b) Other particular projects exempted in the sole discretion of the
Department of Transportation or the unit of local government, stating the
reasons therefore and the circumstances attendant thereto.
The RFQ Process usually takes the following steps:
Project is identified.
Scope of services is developed.
The RFQ is distributed to interested parties.
Responses are received and two to four most qualified firms are selected
for interviews.
Following interview, the most qualified firm is selected.
Final scope of work and fee is negotiated with selected firm.
If this cannot be satisfactory done, start negotiations with second firm.
3. A contract is developed with scope, fees, timelines, payments, etc. The contract signed
by consultant and local government representative.
4. Financial Planning Consultants are available to develop different kinds of financial
planning tools:
Capital Improvement Plan
Capital Investment Plan
Capital Investment Budget
Annual Capital Budget
These plans and budgets are normally required on grant applications. The City of
Roxboro develops these plans for the projects which Person County participates in.
5. If a conflict develops between local government and consultant:
• Don’t let it fester.
• Address concern with responsible party directly.
• Refer to contract
• Look for solution, not for whose fault it is.
• Finally, seek formal conflict resolution: Mediation
Arbitration
Litigation
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REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF GRANT SUBMISSION:
Sheriff Dewey Jones appeared before the Board to request permission to seek to
apply for another GREAT grant. He told the Board the County received a grant in the
amount of $42,000 this past year. He spoke of the success from the GREAT program.
He said 1,225 children have gone through this program.
A motion was made by Commissioner Puryear, seconded by Commissioner
Clayton and carried to grant permission to the Sheriff to make application for another
GREAT grant.
CHAIRMAN’S REPORT:
Thanked the Board for the confidence placed in him by re-electing him as
Chairman. He said he will continue to do his best for the citizens of Person County.
MANAGER’S REPORT:
► Employee Christmas luncheon on Tuesday at the Festival House
► Thursday – exit speeches at Person High School
► Monday, December 10 - SPC champions meeting
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS/REPORTS:
Commissioner Clayton thanked fellow Board members for the confidence placed
in him by electing him Vice-Chairman of the Board.
ADJOURNMENT:
A motion was made by Commissioner Clayton, seconded by Commissioner
Bowes and carried to adjourn the meeting at 9:21 p.m.
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Faye T. Fuller, CMC Johnny Myrl Lunsford
Clerk to the Board Chairman